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“Things should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” — Albert Einstein

Call records, and then what?

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During the weekend I was reading very well drafted opinions about how the government, and the telecom companies, did not do anything wrong obtaining the call record of the entire population.

Chris argued that not only the actions discussed were completely legal but they did not violate any right. His assay is, by the way, very well written and argued, and although I disagree with his moral argument I recommend reading.

Jeff Jarvis argued that our call record aggregate data belong to the public, and therefore:

If the people own it, then one could argue that the government, acting as the people, may seek and use that data unless we, the people, forbid it through law. There is, of course, a proper debate about whether the law does allow it. There is also a proper debate over whether this is a necessary and prudent weapon in finding terrorists (and whether that is being done effectively). Indeed, a Washington Post poll says that 63 percent of Americans consider this an “acceptable way for the federal government to investigate terrorism.” And didn’t we protest that our government did not do a good enough job analyzing data and intelligence to prevent 9/11? If someone had been analyzing patterns of enrollment in flight schools — hmm, why are an abnormally high number of Saudis suddenly learning how to fly passenger jets? — then could we have stopped them? A further question is whether we have a right to know that all this is going on or whether that public knowledge cripples this investigation and our safety. Finally, it is not clear that releasing aggregate data necessarily violates individuals’ privacy. My point is that this isn’t as simple as raising the tattered-from-overuse privacy flag. Neither is this as simple as raising the also tattered war-on-terrorism flag.

But my fears of the government’s, yet another, invasion into another method of obtaining information about its citizens weren’t calmed by these arguments. Today’s news about the government tracking reporters’ calls to identify their sources confirmed my worries.

I don’t know if the call records served to track the reporters’ calls obtained from the NSA database, however it represent the same disregard for the same liberties it pretend to protect.

And Josh Marshal’s sums it very well:

I think part of the issue for many people on the administration’s various forms of surveillance is not just that some of activities seem to be illegal or unconstitutional on their face. I think many people are probably willing to be open-minded, for better or worse, on pushing the constitutional envelope. But given the people in charge of the executive branch today, you just can’t have any confidence that these tools will be restricted to targeting terrorists. Start grabbing up phone records to data-mine for terrorists and then the tools are just too tempting for your leak investigations. Once you do that, why not just keep an eye on your critics too? After all, they’re the ones most likely to get the leaks, right? So, same difference. The folks around the president don’t recognize any real distinctions among those they consider enemies. So we’d be foolish to think they wouldn’t bring these tools to bear on all of them. Once you set aside the law as your guide for action and view the president’s will as a source of legitimacy in itself, then everything becomes possible and justifiable.

 

 

  

 

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Written by Rogel

May 15th, 2006 at 6:49 pm

Posted in Privacy, human Rights

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    Thank you for considering my logical and legal arguments, but you disagree with my mroal argument?

    I specifically state that although these actions are legal, because the constitutionally and legally protected privacy rights that people FEEL they have are in fact mostly illusory; they are in fact immoral, and the law SHOULD recognize greater legal protections for privacy.

    Are you saying that you believe those greater legal rights exist?
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    I probably misunderstood your argument and if If so will make the correction. my understanding was that you claim that the claim for privacy is wrong, specifically : "Now as to whether it should be or not; that’s a much thornier subject. The fact is, we have allowed but the government, and business, to do this since the inception of communications technologies." following by the similarities you drawn between corporations and the government, despite the fundamental differences. and last you said: "As to a so called right to privacy; no there is no right to privacy if you mean that all others must repsect YOUR privacy and not use the means they have available to abrogate it. That so called right simply does not exist.

    A right is something that can only be abrogated by force, or willful consent. Privacy of your telephone calling records need not be forced, nor does it need your consent to be abrogated; because it is already shared with a third party; the telephone company."

    again, if i misunderstood your position on this issue I apologize and make the corrections in the post.

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